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Has everyone seen this? |
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(13:57 5/9/2001)
andrew (15:04 5/9/2001)
andrew (15:07 5/9/2001)
andrew (15:09 5/9/2001)
andrew (15:10 5/9/2001)
johnstlr (15:31 5/9/2001)
rich (15:39 5/9/2001)
johnstlr (08:36 6/9/2001)
geoff_youngs (13:16 8/9/2001)
monkeyson (08:16 6/9/2001)
johnstlr (08:42 6/9/2001)
guy (09:03 6/9/2001)
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rich |
Message #2671, posted at 13:57, 5/9/2001 |
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Woo, Am I behind the times, or is this new(ish): http://support.riscos.com/Select.htm A list of what will (or won't) be in the Select scheme, which looks like it has different stuff to the previous announcement we covered. Better Internet module? Firewalling? DNS server? Draw saving as SVG, Paint in PNG and JPEG? Huh? |
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andrew |
Message #2672, posted at 15:04, 5/9/2001, in reply to message #2671 |
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It sounds very interesting and seemingly commendable. I wonder if we'll see any development that will allow us to use faster processors in order that the platform will progress though? |
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andrew |
Message #2673, posted at 15:07, 5/9/2001, in reply to message #2672 |
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andrew |
Message #2674, posted at 15:09, 5/9/2001, in reply to message #2673 |
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[Edited by andrew at 16:10, 5/9/2001] |
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andrew |
Message #2675, posted at 15:10, 5/9/2001, in reply to message #2674 |
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Wasn't there an announcement mentioned to be given in Acorn User? |
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johnstlr |
Message #2676, posted at 15:31, 5/9/2001, in reply to message #2671 |
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Better Internet module? Firewalling? DNS server? Draw saving as SVG, Paint in PNG and JPEG? Huh?
The extras for Draw and Paint seem to be side-effects of work done elsewhere - not that they're not welcome mind. DNS server seems an odd one - IMHO RISC OS is about as far from being suitable as a server OS as is possible in a modern OS. Firewall support would be required for any server..and is a good thing for home users too given how easy it is to bring down a RISC OS machine that's connected to a network. |
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rich |
Message #2677, posted at 15:39, 5/9/2001, in reply to message #2676 |
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I doubt they're positioning it for full server use, but perhaps as a local DNS server for a RISC OS LAN? Better than updating the hosts file on 100 machines I guess. |
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monkeyson |
Message #2678, posted at 08:16, 6/9/2001, in reply to message #2671 |
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RISC OS Select seems quite good, in parts, but it doesn't seem to be what everybody wants. RISCOS Ltd should bring out another subscription service that does almost the same thing as RISC OS Select but in a slightly different way. They could call it RISC OS Adjust. |
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johnstlr |
Message #2679, posted at 08:36, 6/9/2001, in reply to message #2677 |
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I doubt they're positioning it for full server use, but perhaps as a local DNS server for a RISC OS LAN?Better than updating the hosts file on 100 machines I guess. The problem here is that it implies either having a RISC OS machine that will be a DNS server and little else or one that will be able to cope with DNS requests while still working - which isn't ideal. It just seems odd to me - a lot of schools already run linux or Windows servers, and they are far better suited to the task (not to mention cheaper in the case of linux) than RISC OS. I'm not going to berate RISC OS Ltd for doing it - there's no point. I'm just curious as to the reasoning behind it. |
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johnstlr |
Message #2680, posted at 08:42, 6/9/2001, in reply to message #2678 |
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RISC OS Select seems quite good, in parts, but it doesn't seem to be what everybody wants. I don't know if the Select scheme itself is right but it's good to see that something is happening. It's difficult to please everyone all of the time. I am concerned over the stance with the 32bit issue - I don't believe that the hardware manufacturers don't want to offer faster machines. I'm also concerned over the (yet again) non-appearance of DHCP. I raised this issue with various parties three years ago and was told it was being addressed. I considered it important back then, and even more so now given the number of ISPs who are using it - not everyone wants to buy a router. Hopefully the licensing issues will be solved soon.
RISCOS Ltd should bring out another subscription service that does almost the same thing as RISC OS Select but in a slightly different way. They could call it RISC OS Adjust.
*grins* Right-click for alternative behaviour. |
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guy |
Message #2681, posted at 09:03, 6/9/2001, in reply to message #2680 |
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I can't help wondering if Pace have a hand in the DNS bit? I keep wondering how they plan to reconcile their RISC OS and Linux interests. PS Draw to SVG hurrah! |
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geoff_youngs |
Message #2682, posted at 13:16, 8/9/2001, in reply to message #2679 |
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It just seems odd to me - a lot of schools already run linux or Windows servers, and they are far better suited to the task (not to mention cheaper in the case of linux) than RISC OS. I'm not going to berate RISC OS Ltd for doing it - there's no point. I'm just curious as to the reasoning behind it. Don't quote me on this, but ISTR that it is a throwback to the ANT Suite - the resolver module (originally designed for the ANT Internet and Server Suites) has always had the potential to be used as a server. AIUI, all Select is doing is facilitating access to an otherwise undocumented existing feature. |
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