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The Icon Bar: General: urgent - file recovery
 
  urgent - file recovery
  (09:16 13/11/2001)
  andrew (10:23 13/11/2001)
    guy (10:47 13/11/2001)
      Matthew (10:56 13/11/2001)
        guy (11:02 13/11/2001)
        guy (13:28 13/11/2001)
          rich (13:58 15/6/2002)
            guy (19:01 15/11/2001)
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                guy (14:41 17/11/2001)
                  jess (20:37 18/11/2001)
            guy (21:50 20/11/2001)
              law (23:14 20/11/2001)
                guy (09:53 24/11/2001)
                  ToiletDuck (15:18 24/11/2001)
                  Gulli (00:40 25/11/2001)
                  jess (03:04 25/11/2001)
                    guy (13:58 15/6/2002)
 
guy Message #2827, posted at 09:16, 13/11/2001
Unregistered user I urgently need a file off the HD of my old Acorn A5000 that died a few weeks ago. The HD is prob'ly still OK, but do you know anyone with the kit/willingness, to plug in my HD and retrieve said file? Today. I am willing to drive across England, up to say 3 hrs. from Worcestershire is possible.

Reason is, it's actually my daughter's. She needs a copy of an essay she wrote, for some reason the Uni she is applying to want to see it by tomorrow (nice to be forewarned - the exam board promised to return the original but let her down). And no, she hadn't made a backup.

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andrew Message #2828, posted at 10:23, 13/11/2001, in reply to message #2827
Unregistered user Have you tried Disknight?
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guy Message #2829, posted at 10:47, 13/11/2001, in reply to message #2828
Unregistered user
Have you tried Disknight?

location? a) url, b) geographical

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Matthew Message #2830, posted at 10:56, 13/11/2001, in reply to message #2829
Unregistered user http://www.discknight.riscos.org.uk/ - I'd also email the author as he's quite willing to help in important circumstances, if possible.

As you say you think the HD is okay, what's wrong with the A5000? Will it just not turn on?

ATB,
Matthew

[Edited by Matthew at 10:58, 13/11/2001]

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guy Message #2831, posted at 11:02, 13/11/2001, in reply to message #2830
Unregistered user ah, thanks.

actually, it's not a DiskKnight type hd problem - it's the rest of the box that died. I just need access to a working A5000 - beg, borrow or buy.

btw, will anything else need doing besides swapping hd's?

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guy Message #2832, posted at 13:28, 13/11/2001, in reply to message #2830
Unregistered user
As you say you think the HD is okay, what's wrong with the A5000? Will it just not turn on?
Screen goes magenta, and that's about it. Can't remember if a few other colours appear or whether it finishes up magenta or black. Changing screen mode on startup has no effect, the monitor is fine (using it on the A3010).
HD makes usual-ish noises.
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guy Message #2834, posted at 19:01, 15/11/2001, in reply to message #2833
Unregistered user Thanks Richard, I'll try a few flashes and wiggles (unlikely to get arrested this deep in the countryside).
Sadly, I am accessing TIB from a PC pox box until I can get an <censored - don't start that thread again/>
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jukebox Message #2835, posted at 22:41, 15/11/2001, in reply to message #2834
Unregistered user try putting your HD into the A3010 if the interface is a suitable.
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guy Message #2836, posted at 14:41, 17/11/2001, in reply to message #2835
Unregistered user
try putting your HD into the A3010 if the interface is a suitable.
I just assumed that the HD was IDE and the A3010 was not compatible without a suitable podule, hard to come by and too expensive.
I also am not sure about whether the amount of RISC OS/config stuff stored in ROM varies between the two machnines.
Am I missing an opportunity?
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jess Message #2837, posted at 20:37, 18/11/2001, in reply to message #2836
Unregistered user Perhaps you could find an old A4000 - £15 - £25 probably.
The drive would go straight in, and the system should work as before, just slower.

It should plug into any IDE RISC OS system.

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guy Message #2838, posted at 21:50, 20/11/2001, in reply to message #2833
Unregistered user well, I wiggled and reseated a few bits.
Now the screen stays blank, and the keyboard LED's flash briefly on power-up.
No sign of activity from the HD, though the floppy LED beats a fancy rhythm.
ooer ... ?
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law Message #2839, posted at 23:14, 20/11/2001, in reply to message #2838
Unregistered user
well, I wiggled and reseated a few bits.
Now the screen stays blank, and the keyboard LED's flash briefly on power-up.
No sign of activity from the HD, though the floppy LED beats a fancy rhythm.
ooer ... ?

Ah, now that's useful, it's 32 flashes in all, some long some short
in groups of 4. If you would post the sequence you get, then
it should be possible to point the finger at the faulty bit.

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guy Message #2840, posted at 09:53, 24/11/2001, in reply to message #2839
Unregistered user oh dear.
Fired it up again to count flashes, but there wre none. Just the power-on led, briefest of gimmers from the keyboard leds and no chuntering of disks whatsoever.
Terminal cancer?
Try another wiggle?

How realistic is it to try and plug the HD into a RiscPC, eg is there a spare IDE port to plug into, does anything (jumpers, !boot, etc) need configuring?

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Mark Quint Message #2841, posted by ToiletDuck at 15:18, 24/11/2001, in reply to message #2840
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I'd have thought plug it into the RiscPC, turn on, goto !boot & add another IDEDrive, reset & it *should* show up on the iconbar?
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Gulli Message #2842, posted at 00:40, 25/11/2001, in reply to message #2840
Unregistered user You shouldn't have much of a problem moving the disc to a RiscPC. The RiscPC only has one IDE port in it but it supports two devices so if you have a IDE CD-Drive you'll have to unplug it and plug the disc instead.

Before plugging it in, make sure it has a correct jumper setting. It should be set as slave (SL). If the drive connects to the plug in the middle of the cable (not the end) a setting the jumper to cable select (CS) might work also, I don't know if the IDE controller in the RiscPC supports cable select so I'd go for slave.

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jess Message #2843, posted at 03:04, 25/11/2001, in reply to message #2840
Unregistered user Method I'd use for a couple of files is prepare a couple of floppies.
unplug the ide cable from motherboard of rpc, plug in just the A5K hd using another ide cable,
possibly using power lead from the CDROM, press escape when booting and copy what you need to the floppy.
Then reassemble.
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rich Message #2833, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #2832
Unregistered user The magenta screen sound like the hardware check at startup - if it suceeds the screen should go cyan/blue, then black (IIRC). If it's failing the caps lock (?) light should flash; the number of flashes denotes the error. It might be a lose memory card or something, my usual fix on older hardware is to wiggle stuff that wiggles and push chips in tighter so they can't wiggle. smile

If the HDD is okay, why not just plug it into the machine you're using to view the site (presuming it's a RISC OS machine)? A RiscPC should be able to read it surely?

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guy Message #2844, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #2843
Unregistered user Thanx all. went to the b'ham show, bought a RPC600 wilt CD drive off APDL for £115, Dave showd me how to swap CD drive for A5000 HD and fix the jumpers.

Back home, went like a dose of salts. Sibelius knew its box had been messed around with and let me uninstall/reinstall. Everything else copied across, then drives swapped back.

Thanks again all. Happy bunny grin

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