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The Icon Bar: General: riscos.me.uk - what to do?
 
  riscos.me.uk - what to do?
  (13:34 21/1/2002)
  rich (13:36 21/1/2002)
  john (16:52 21/1/2002)
    rich (09:32 22/1/2002)
  [mentat] (13:58 15/6/2002)
    rich (13:58 15/6/2002)
      moss (13:58 15/6/2002)
      [mentat] (13:58 15/6/2002)
  Nerik (13:58 15/6/2002)
 
rich Message #3044, posted at 13:34, 21/1/2002
Unregistered user Hi folks,

as posted in the news article comments etc. etc., I've now bought the domain riscos.me.uk. and being the generous sort I'm considering using it to provide email addresses and web redirects to anyone who wants them - for free of course.

In order of ease, I could do...

  1. email redirects - something@riscos.me.uk mapping to your existing email address, so if you move ISPs you can keep your cool email address and not have to tell people you've moved. I'd do this by hand originally, but it would be fairly simple to set up a script so you can log in and change it yourself in realtime.
  2. Web redirects - http://(www.)riscos.me.uk/something/ which as above redirects to your existing website, but can move with you. This could be a straight redirect, or using frames the URL in the browser window could be made to appear to be your riscos.me.uk address. This is slightly harder to achieve as it would probably require the web server to be restarted, although a custom 404 error script wired into a database might do the trick.
  3. Subdomains, e.g. http://(www.)something.riscos.me.uk/ - these would be trickier as it would require changes to the DNS server on another machine, the DNS to propagate so people can find the site, the web server restarted etc. This kind of effort for free would probably only be worthwhile if it was used to give worthy causes free webspace, and not just have a webspace free-for-all. "Worthy" could have a looser definition than the current TIB rules though.

Right, that should be enough to get the ball rolling. Good idea? Bad idea? Don't give a rats ass? Let me know.
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rich Message #3045, posted at 13:36, 21/1/2002, in reply to message #3044
Unregistered user Damn, knew I'd forget something.

http://hosted.iconbar.com/ - free guest books etc. are also a possibility.

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john Message #3048, posted at 16:52, 21/1/2002, in reply to message #3044
Unregistered user
Hi folks,

as posted in the news article comments etc. etc., I've now bought the domain riscos.me.uk. and being the generous sort I'm considering using it to provide email addresses and web redirects to anyone who wants them - for free of course.

Sounds great!

In order of ease, I could do...
  1. email redirects - something@riscos.me.uk mapping to your existing email address, so if you move ISPs you can keep your cool email address and not have to tell people you've moved. I'd do this by hand originally, but it would be fairly simple to set up a script so you can log in and change it yourself in realtime.
Great again, things like that are always handy.
  • Web redirects - http://(www.)riscos.me.uk/something/ which as above redirects to your existing website, but can move with you. This could be a straight redirect, or using frames the URL in the browser window could be made to appear to be your riscos.me.uk address. This is slightly harder to achieve as it would probably require the web server to be restarted, although a custom 404 error script wired into a database might do the trick.
  • Subdomains, e.g. http://(www.)something.riscos.me.uk/ - these would be trickier as it would require changes to the DNS server on another machine, the DNS to propagate so people can find the site, the web server restarted etc. This kind of effort for free would probably only be worthwhile if it was used to give worthy causes free webspace, and not just have a webspace free-for-all. "Worthy" could have a looser definition than the current TIB rules though.
  • I thought that it was instant for additions, as they aren't cached anywhere, I thought it was only changes, which may be cached everywhere, which took time to propegate?

    Right, that should be enough to get the ball rolling. Good idea? Bad idea? Don't give a rats ass? Let me know.
    Sounds fab, as long as it doesn't disappear of course. Perhaps you could link up with riscos.org.uk's redirection thing so they both use the same database, although real time alteration a la cjb.net would be brill.
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    rich Message #3050, posted at 09:32, 22/1/2002, in reply to message #3048
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    I thought that it was instant for additions, as they aren't cached anywhere, I thought it was only changes, which may be cached everywhere, which took time to propegate?
    Due to the way that ArgoNet's DNS was set up back in the mists of time by Pipex, although ArgoNet have a sort-of primary DNS server most of it is handled on Pipex's machines and changes downloaded from ArgoNet - using FTP at some points, which has got to be one of the craziest DNS system going.

    It's been my experience that it can take 24 to 48 hours for subdomains to propagate from ArgoNet to, say, a Demon dialup customer, although as my server uses the ArgoNet one as primary DNS the changes to the web server here can be made right away.

    The answer is probably to run my own DNS server, but the sticking points at the moment are that not only do I have to be certain that this server can run named without problems - security issues, the fact that the server might have to move again soon, and of course I haven't set up my own name server yet - but I also need someone else like Jase or Andy to get their own servers set up properly so they can act as the secondary. Those boys have proper 1U servers in a proper hosting facility, which if the leased line here is changed I'm going to have to do as well.

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    I don't have tourettes you're just a cun Message #3046, posted by [mentat] at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #3044
    [mentat]Fear is the mind-killer
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    email redirects

    Cool. Would you be able to have that address pointing to multiple other addresses?

    Web redirects - http://(www.)riscos.me.uk/something/ which as above redirects to your existing website, but can move with you. This could be a straight redirect, or using frames the URL in the browser window could be made to appear to be your riscos.me.uk address. This is slightly harder to achieve as it would probably require the web server to be restarted, although a custom 404 error script wired into a database might do the trick.

    Sounds equally cool and useful, - although (somewhat stating the obvious) identical to a function provided by Stubbsy at riscos.org.uk. Still, you can never get too much of a good thing wink

    Right, that should be enough to get the ball rolling. Good idea? Bad idea? Don't give a rats ass? Let me know.

    I give 2 a monkey's to see a rat riding an ass... grin

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    rich Message #3047, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #3046
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    Cool. Would you be able to have that address pointing to multiple other addresses?
    Yeah, no probs. A comma separated list would do that.
    Sounds equally cool and useful, - although (somewhat stating the obvious) identical to a function provided by Stubbsy at riscos.org.uk. Still, you can never get too much of a good thing wink
    Ah, I thought that was for a small fee, but I've just looked and it's not is it? See, this is why I need people to tell me if it's worthwhile. Or maybe he'll be too busy with AU to do that in the future wink
    Right, that should be enough to get the ball rolling. Good idea? Bad idea? Don't give a rats ass? Let me know.
    I give 2 a monkey's to see a rat riding an ass... grin
    I'll raise you a monkey's uncle...
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    moss Message #3049, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #3047
    Unregistered user I'm in the middle of doing a site at the moment, but most of this wouldn't suit it, unfortunately. unhappy

    But I like the idea of the free guestbook! smile

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    I don't have tourettes you're just a cun Message #3051, posted by [mentat] at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #3047
    [mentat]Fear is the mind-killer
    Posts: 6266
    Cool. Would you be able to have that address pointing to multiple other addresses?

    Yeah, no probs. A comma separated list would do that.

    You've just got one devoted fan then grin

    Sounds equally cool and useful, - although (somewhat stating the obvious) identical to a function provided by Stubbsy at riscos.org.uk. Still, you can never get too much of a good thing wink

    Ah, I thought that was for a small fee, but I've just looked and it's not is it? See, this is why I need people to tell me if it's worthwhile. Or maybe he'll be too busy with AU to do that in the future wink

    I doubt that, but I can't remember which method he uses for the redirect, so there might yet be room for some diversity. But I think you should do it anyway. cool


    I give 2 monkey's to see a rat riding an ass... grin

    I'll raise you a monkey's uncle...

    I'll throw in half a camel's hump...

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    Nerik Message #3052, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #3044
    Unregistered user
    In order of ease, I could do...
    1. email redirects - something@riscos.me.uk mapping to your existing email address, so if you move ISPs you can keep your cool email address and not have to tell people you've moved. I'd do this by hand originally, but it would be fairly simple to set up a script so you can log in and change it yourself in realtime.
    I'd definately like that, count me in. Would have been useful recently indiff
    I used to use bigfoot, until they started charging. frown
  • Web redirects - http://(www.)riscos.me.uk/something/ which as above redirects to your existing website, but can move with you. This could be a straight redirect, or using frames the URL in the browser window could be made to appear to be your riscos.me.uk address. This is slightly harder to achieve as it would probably require the web server to be restarted, although a custom 404 error script wired into a database might do the trick
  • This would be useful if I ever got my website on-line! smile

    All in all, I'd definately say go for it. coolcoolcool

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